FXUS61 KCLE 081128 AFDCLE AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CLEVELAND OH 728 AM EDT MON OCT 8 2007 .SYNOPSIS... HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY WILL DRIFT SOUTHEAST TO THE CAROLINAS BY EARLY TUESDAY. THIS WILL ALLOW A COLD FRONT OVER THE CENTRAL STATES LAKES TO MOVE EAST ACROSS THE LOCAL AREA MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. A SECOND COLD FRONT WILL FOLLOW TUESDAY NIGHT AS LOW PRESSURE PASSES TO THE NORTH. HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD OVER THE REGION FROM THE NORTHWEST DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... ANOTHER DAY LIKE TODAY WONT COME UNTIL '08. HIGH PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE JULY IN OCTOBER WEATHER WITH LITTLE/NO CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION AND TEMPERATURES WELL INTO THE 80S TO NEAR 90. TONIGHT HOWEVER IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END. AS THE HIGH WEAKENS AND DRIFTS SOUTHEAST THE COLD FRONT ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS WILL MOVE ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA. MANUAL PROGS NAM AND GFS POSITIONS ALL CLOSE WITH CDFNT NEAR OR JUST EAST OF KCLE 12Z TUESDAY. BOTH MODELS GENERATING LIFT AND DEEP RH ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. WILL GO WITH LIKELY POPS WEST OVERNIGHT AND A CHANCE EAST. ALTHOUGH A DIURNAL MIN FOR THUNDER WILL NEED TO CARRY THUNDER OVERNIGHT GIVEN ACCOMPANYING DYNAMICS. WILL NEED TO WORD IN RECORD/NEAR RECORD FOR MFD...YNG...ERIE PA...AND CLE GROUPS. && .SHORT TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... MODEL DIFFERENCES SHOW UP IN THE TRACK OF THE UPPER LOW. DIFFERENCES HOWEVER ARE NOT TO BE UNEXPECTED GIVEN THE DEEP CLOSED UPPER SYSTEM. NOT SURE HOW RELEVANT DIFFERENCES ARE AT THIS POINT HOWEVER. BIG PICTURE WILL PREVAIL IN THAT IT WILL TURN MUCH COOLER...CLOUDIER AND SHOWERY ON BALANCE THROUGH MID WEEK AND BEYOND. FOR TUESDAY COLD FRONT SHOULD MOVE EAST OUT OF THE AREA DURING THE MORNING. WILL NEED TO CONTINUE WITH LIKELY POPS CENTRAL AND EAST IN THE MORNING. DRY SLOT WORKS IN QUICK HOWEVER AND GIVEN THE DRY AND AND RIDGING BEHIND THE FRONT BELIEVE WE SHOULD SEE SEVERAL HOURS OF SUN BEFORE CLOUDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER LOW ROTATE SOUTH INTO THE AREA. TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY WILL MOVE CLOUDS BACK INTO THE AREA. SECONDARY COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH THE AREA TUESDAY NIGHT WHICH WILL DROP 850MB TEMPS TO BETWEEN 0 AND +4 DEPENDING ON MODEL. EITHER WAY...WITH THE COLD AIR ALOFT WOULD EXPECT INSTABILITY SHOWERS TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE AREA WEDNESDAY. LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS SHOULD DEVELOP GIVEN THE WARM WATERS HOWEVER WINDS MAY NOT BE FAVORABLE TO BRING SHOWERS ONSHORE UNTIL LATE WEEK AS WINDS TURN NLY BEHIND THE LOW. && .LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY/... MODELS CONTINUE TO DIFFER FROM MIDWEEK ON THROUGH END OF THE PERIOD AS GFS INDICATED UPPER LOW TO DIVE INTO MID ATLANTIC REGION WHILE ECMWF TRACKS UPPER LOW NORTH OF THE REGION AND THEN INTO NEW YORK STATE BY THURSDAY...AND THEN GRADUALLY WEAKEN IT THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK OVER NEW ENGLAND. AT THIS TIME FAVOR THE ECMWF SOLUTION IN TRACKING THE UPPER LOW MAINLY EAST INTO NEW ENGLAND FOR THE END OF THE PERIOD. DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE WEEK...AS THE LOW WEAKENS OVER NEW ENGLAND THE ECMWF SHOWS AN EMBEDDED TROUGH ROTATING AROUND THE PRIMARY LOW THAT WOULD MOVE THROUGH THE AREA FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY. THIS UPPER LOW WILL INFLUENCE THE AREA THROUGH SATURDAY WITH CYCLONIC FLOW OVERHEAD. HAVE CHC POPS FOR SHOWERS ACROSS THE AREA FROM WEDNESDAY THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK. FRIDAY NIGHT BEGAN TRANSITION OF DECREASING POPS ACROSS WESTERN AREAS AND THEN DRYING OUT WESTERN AND SOUTHWEST AREAS ON SATURDAY. GIVEN NORTHERLY FLOW OFF THE LAKE AND COOL H850 TEMPS ALOFT...CONTINUED WITH CHC POPS ON SAT ACROSS NE OH/NW PA AND SLIGHT CHC POPS ACROSS FAR SE AREAS. BY SUNDAY...EXPECTING MUCH OF SHOWER ACTIVITY TO DIMINISH ACROSS THE AREA AS DRIER AIR AND SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE BEGIN TO SLOWLY BUILD INTO THE AREA. AS FOR TEMPS...GOING FROM WELL ABOVE AVERAGE IN SHORT TERM TO BELOW AVERAGE TEMPS BEHIND THE FRONT FROM WEDNESDAY THROUGH THE END OF THE PERIOD. ECMWF H850 TEMPS AROUND 0C BEGINNING WED AND CONTINUING WITHIN A FEW DEGREES OF 0C THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK. GIVEN LIKELY CLOUD COVER AND SHOWERS LOWERED TEMPS BACK INTO THE 50S DURING THIS TIME. HOWEVER...CLOUD COVER AT NIGHT WOULD ALLOW FOR TEMPS TO ONLY FALL BACK AROUND 10 DEGREES FROM MAXES SO DID NOT WANT TO GO LOWER THAN MID 40S THROUGH FRIDAY. INTO WEEKEND DID TREND TOWARDS LOWER 40S FOR LOWS BY END OF THE PERIOD AS COLDER AIR BECOMES MORE SETTLED OVER THE REGION. && .AVIATION /12Z MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY/... BUFKIT MODEL SOUNDINGS HINTING AT SOME PRECIPITATION DURING THE DAY TODAY BUT WITH HIGH OVERHEAD AT THIS TIME IT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET THAT DEEPER MOISTURE INTO THE FORECAST AREA. SO...I AM GOING TO HOLD OFF ON ANY PRECIPITATION UNTIL LATE TONIGHT TOWARD SUNRISE IN THE WEST HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA. I WILL KEEP THE REST OF THE FORECAST AREA DRY THROUGH 12Z. IN THE MEAN TIME...WILL CONTINUE WITH SOME MVFR FOG IN SOME OF THE LOCATIONS THROUGH 13Z GIVING WAY TO FAIR WEATHER THROUGH THE DAY TODAY. SOME MID AND HIGH CLOUDS STREAMING OVER THE TOP OF THE RIDGE WILL GRADUALLY PUSH INTO THE WESTERN PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA BY THIS AFTERNOON. HIGH CLOUDS RACING SOUTHEAST INTO ERIE AREA NOW. WIND FLOW SHOULD REMAIN FROM THE SOUTHWEST AT AROUND 8 TO 10 KNOTS THROUGH THE PERIOD AND BECOME MORE WESTERLY BY END OF THE PERIOD. LAKE BREEZE MAY TRY TO SNEAK INTO ERIE SO I USED A WESTERLY COMPONENT TO THE WIND FOR THAT AREA THIS AFTERNOON. ALL MODELS SEEM IN AGREEMENT WITH NEXT COLD FRONT REACHING NORTHWEST OHIO LATE MONDAY NIGHT AND NORTHEAST OHIO AND NORTHWEST PENNSYLVANIA SOME TIME TUESDAY MORNING. FRONT WILL BE WEAKENING WITH LIMITED MOISTURE SO EXPECTING ONLY A FEW SHOWERS OR ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS. NORTHWEST FLOW AND DEEPENING TROUGH ALOFT SHOULD BRING INCREASING INSTABILITY AND THE THREAT FOR SOME SHOWERS THE SECOND HALF OF THE WEEK ESPECIALLY DOWNWIND OF LAKE ERIE. && .MARINE... COLD FRONT IS MAKING EASTWARD PROGRESS AND AS IT MOVES EAST AND WILL CONTINUE TO WEAKEN. FRONTAL PASSAGE APPEARS THAT IT WILL TAKE PLACE ACROSS THE LAKE DURING THE MORNING HOURS MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING. MODEL GUIDANCE SUGGEST VERY LIGHT WIND FLOW OVER THE LAKE AT THE SURFACE BUT 925 MB WINDS ARE RUNNING ABOUT 10 TO 20 KNOTS HIGHER THAN AT THE SURFACE. WILL CONTINUE WITH CURRENT WIND FORECAST DUE TO COLD AIR ADVECTION TAKING PLACE ALLOWING MIXING TO OCCUR DOWN TO THE LAKE SURFACE AFTER FRONTAL PASSAGE. IN THE MEAN TIME...LIGHT WIND FLOW WILL CONTINUE OVERNIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING AHEAD OF THE FRONT. REST OF THE WEEK WILL SEE UNSTABLE WEATHER CONDITIONS AS UPPER LEVEL LOW SETTLES IN OVER THE AREA. MIXED COLD AIR ADVECTION IN THE LOWER LEVELS WILL ALLOW HIGHER WINDS TO SHIFT DOWN TO THE SURFACE OF THE LAKE. THIS WILL KEEP WINDS UP OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. && .CLE WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... OH...NONE. PA...NONE. MARINE...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...TK NEAR TERM...TK SHORT TERM...TK LONG TERM...ABE AVIATION...LOMBARDY MARINE...LOMBARDY